25 May

i just figured it out. the ending in Orwell’s “1984”. it’s not about the system which defeats you. no system can alter the unalterable in each human being. it’s the man himself who yields to his fears. the system is a mere touchstone in the sense of  “test or criterion for determining the quality or genuineness of a thing”. it brings out the worst or the best in people. it’s like my chess teacher used to say: you don’t lose because the other one is better at playing, you lose because of your own shortcomings.


Posted by on May 25, 2009 in fractali


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9 responses to “1984

  1. Iulianus

    May 25, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Orwell’s system achieves perfection with the breaking of the human spirit hard enough to make a person wish harm upon that person’s loved one in order to escape harm him/herself. The person gives in to the most basic instinct, that of surviving at the cost of everything else.

  2. sheherzadah

    May 25, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Yes, however, instincts too can be mastered. What I’m trying to say is that it’s not the system’s “fault”: ).

  3. Iulianus

    May 25, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    No, it’s never the system’s fault. People don’t have to go along with it.

  4. sheherzadah

    May 25, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Exactly. However it takes great strength not to yield to anything (be it a system or anything else). In the end it all comes down to that. The extent to which we master ourselves. Everything depends on that.

  5. pjman109

    January 11, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    The secret lies in the surveillance. People aren’t as scared when they KNOW they’re being watched, because they know not to screw up. The secret with the telescreens is that they CAN be watched at any given moment and they never know when or if they’re being watched. This leads to them assuming theyre always being watched, and then they make sure they never make a mistake. Once they begin policing themselves to make sure they don’t mess up the system becomes internalized in each human being. They impose upon themselves the behavior expected of them by Big Brother and eventually that turns into true love and adoration. They have to believe it to survive in that society because they weren’t supposed to follow any set rules, they were supposed to love Big Brother.

  6. Sheherzadah

    January 11, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    yeah, I like your argumentation: ). what you actually say is that people actually become Big Brother in their relation with themselves so they virtually have no option other than love themselves, hence Big Brother.

  7. pjman109

    January 12, 2012 at 12:35 am

    Precisely. Big Brother isn’t one man, because he’s everyone. Big Brother is not a set of rules he is a way of life and to survive they had no choice to be a part of that. I wrote an essay last semester that discussed stuff just like this, but it was comparing an essay called “Panopticism” and a movie called “The Conversation”. I think I might upload it. This stuff is fascinating to me.

  8. Sheherzadah

    January 12, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Yet whenever I talk about these things I feel it’s rather wrong for me to make general assumptions about people (you know, what they should or should not do in conditions that I haven’t experienced myself. I was born in Romania during the communist regime, but I was only 6 when Ceausescu was killed, so I was not aware of much at that time). I sometimes wonder what I would have done had the Revolution not come. And the answers are not exactly flattering: ). I don’t think I would be dissident material. I’m too coward.

  9. pjman109

    January 14, 2012 at 12:20 am

    Theres really nothing to be ashamed of. If i were to undergo half of the first thirty minutes of winstons torture for example id break so fast. the people that hold up under torture like that, theyve been trained to go through anything, before giving in. and then the other people are those who simply have nothing to lose, theyd say whatever they were told, but they wouldnt be broken. thats so strange to me though, knowing you went through that lifestyle, even as a child. things like that leave their mark. and you got to see what happens after a communist government falls.


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